Disc Brake Conversion Forum Roundup
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Disc Brake Conversion Forum Roundup
I've been scouring the forum for info on disc brake conversions and haven't found much in the way of a guaranteed "just works" conversion. At least not for my needs. My needs are:
• Fits a stock 15" rim
• Dual m/c
• Stops my Lincoln
• No unforseen problems
• (Stock appearance in engine compartment) <-- I've given up on this one
Here are some things I found:
• Gearhead had a nice kit but is out of business
• mention of a "65 booster fiasco"
• Brake light issues
• Pedal height issues
• CPP’s requires 17”+
• AutoObsession kit requires 17”+
• Baer brake kit from Jegs requires 17”+
That has left me with this find from Murray Kustom Rods:
• brake kit: https://www.murraykustomrods.com/store. ... p566111678
• m/c + booster: https://www.murraykustomrods.com/store. ... p620396859
Anyone have experience with this kit?
Any other solutions or concerns I've missed?
• Fits a stock 15" rim
• Dual m/c
• Stops my Lincoln
• No unforseen problems
• (Stock appearance in engine compartment) <-- I've given up on this one
Here are some things I found:
• Gearhead had a nice kit but is out of business
• mention of a "65 booster fiasco"
• Brake light issues
• Pedal height issues
• CPP’s requires 17”+
• AutoObsession kit requires 17”+
• Baer brake kit from Jegs requires 17”+
That has left me with this find from Murray Kustom Rods:
• brake kit: https://www.murraykustomrods.com/store. ... p566111678
• m/c + booster: https://www.murraykustomrods.com/store. ... p620396859
Anyone have experience with this kit?
Any other solutions or concerns I've missed?
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Shouldn’t you add “convert to later ‘65+ calipers, etc.” That would seem to hit everything on your needs list. There must be parts cars still out there with all the hardware you need.
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Yes, that should be on the list! Thank you!
I believe you can only fit 12" rotors inside a 15" rim (correct me if I'm wrong here) so the thought of vented discs and 4-piston calipers sounds good on a car that weighs 5550lbs, give or take.
So many people I read about that were going with stock part solutions seemed to have issues with brake lights, pedal height, and brake feel.
I kept reading about some sort of issue that people were having with the '65 booster too. It made me worried about going that route.
I believe you can only fit 12" rotors inside a 15" rim (correct me if I'm wrong here) so the thought of vented discs and 4-piston calipers sounds good on a car that weighs 5550lbs, give or take.
So many people I read about that were going with stock part solutions seemed to have issues with brake lights, pedal height, and brake feel.
I kept reading about some sort of issue that people were having with the '65 booster too. It made me worried about going that route.
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Of course it depends on your intended use, so when I see somebody going with giant Baer discs all around, I assume they are preparing for…what? Gymkhana? Autocross? Watkins Glen?
I’ve been driving my ‘62 with drum brakes “normally” for decades. And I don’t recall ever pressing them to the point of significant fade, or felt unsafe. I can make a well modulated emergency stop from any legal speed, where the limiting factor is tire adhesion to the pavement, and the best discs can’t improve on that. But I can’t make three emergency stops in quick succession, nor do I ever expect to have to.
Of course, mine are always in top shape, and I think many owners have never driven a vintage drum brake system in really good condition, thus the tendency toward discs.
I’ve been driving my ‘62 with drum brakes “normally” for decades. And I don’t recall ever pressing them to the point of significant fade, or felt unsafe. I can make a well modulated emergency stop from any legal speed, where the limiting factor is tire adhesion to the pavement, and the best discs can’t improve on that. But I can’t make three emergency stops in quick succession, nor do I ever expect to have to.
Of course, mine are always in top shape, and I think many owners have never driven a vintage drum brake system in really good condition, thus the tendency toward discs.
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Drum brakes look TERRIBLE behind a 20" wheel!Lee wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:25 pm Of course it depends on your intended use, so when I see somebody going with giant Baer discs all around, I assume they are preparing for…what? Gymkhana? Autocross? Watkins Glen?
I’ve been driving my ‘62 with drum brakes “normally” for decades. And I don’t recall ever pressing them to the point of significant fade, or felt unsafe. I can make a well modulated emergency stop from any legal speed, where the limiting factor is tire adhesion to the pavement, and the best discs can’t improve on that. But I can’t make three emergency stops in quick succession, nor do I ever expect to have to.
Of course, mine are always in top shape, and I think many owners have never driven a vintage drum brake system in really good condition, thus the tendency toward discs.
The big brake kits are really over rated but they do look bad ass! My fathers 77 Nova drag car runs the factory brakes (disc/drum) converted to manual with zero issues. He typically runs 5.80 eighth mile index but the car has run 8.90 out the back at around
155 MPH.
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You’ve got me there!
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Who wants 20” wheels on a classic? Blech!
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True... 20s are pretty 2006 I guess that's why everyone is putting 22s and 24s on them.
I really hate 15s because it gives the car an awesome "let's go tube the river" look.
I really hate 15s because it gives the car an awesome "let's go tube the river" look.
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One's personal preferences are all that matters to one's person.
I prefer stock from a historical preservation point of view. The factory look for the classic no longer made.
I prefer stock from a historical preservation point of view. The factory look for the classic no longer made.
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I think 20 inch wheels look just fine with drum brakes.
I have not yet decided weather or not to put discs on my '62, I have all the parts, but the present brakes are like new, so maybe I'll let sleeping dogs lie. Any conversion will have fitment pitfalls, weather you go stock Lincoln, or a modern kit. You may have to figure some things out as you go, but with the Lincoln brakes, it has been done here before, and others will share that experience.Fraser Noble, Western Canada
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Powdered oat those drums.
I mean… powdercoat those drums!
I mean… powdercoat those drums!
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That's a grain truck, sooo... probably already been powdered oated!
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One of the reasons for going disc is that I live on a hill... which is known for having 4 of the top 10 steepest streets in San Francisco. The one on the cross street I live at is a 31.5% grade.
Another option I've considered is just going to a dual master cylinder to have the extra margin of safety. Am I over cautious?
Another option I've considered is just going to a dual master cylinder to have the extra margin of safety. Am I over cautious?
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