The SANEST 64 Project ever!

[cliffdavis]

OK, not really sane. This long-term project is EFI for the 430 in my 64 sedan. I'm designing & fabricating MPFI using as many FoMoCo parts as possible, and I want to DIY rather than buying a TBI 'kit'.. I've been 'homeworking' this idea for years and it's just time to start making stuff!

First up was turning a distributor into an oil-pump drive- I'm going EDIS-8 but I still need oil! This was remarkably simple and I can share the details if anyone's interested.

[sykolincoln]

lol @ sanest project ever! Good ideas cant wait to see it all pan out

[cliffdavis]

This weekend I made a jig for the 430 intake, for bolting it onto a Bridgeport. I apologize for the crappy cell-phone pic but at least it makes my welding look better! Pretty soon I'll try to machine it for injector bungs. If I can line the bungs up 'flat' enough, I can use the factory 460 fuel rails. One teeny step at a time...

[bagged59]

it looks like you have a fun project going. keep the pictures coming!

[Solid]

Electromotive, motec, or something else?

[decipha]

i hope your aware that edis8 requires a cam sensor for injector timing

try sourcing the cam sensor and synchronizer stalk from an 89-95 supercoupe, they are direct drop ins for 460 big blocks IIRC, so they may be much easier to modify to fit a 430

[cliffdavis]

Thanks for the heads-up, decipha. I thought EDIS-8 ran off of a 36-1 crank trigger, and that's why it uses a 'waste-spark' strategy (for simplicity's sake)? So maybe it's time to re-re-RE-think the components I'm going to need. I'll plod along with those issues as I continue to prepare hardware.

[cliffdavis]

Spent the day brazing injector bungs into a MEL intake manifold- with a MiG welder!

Mig-brazing is weird- I never even heard of it until last week. The base metals don't melt, so the puddle of molten bronze just dances around like an electric gummy worm. You have to push it around with the stick-out wire as it's melting too. You can see right in the front of this one where the bead got away from me and picked its own path for a second or two. CRAZY.

But now I have a port-injection manifold for my car.

[twistngo]

Early 2000s taurus with the 3.0 OHV motor had a cam position sensor that was in the old distributer hole and ran the oil pump. You can check it out on autozone's website, it has pics not a fan of their parts, it comes with drive shaft, housing, sender, and pick-up for about $60. You appear to have some machining skills so adapting this may not be to difficult and no sense in reinventing the wheel. I think AZ calls it a camshaft syncronizer and if I have my electronics right, others correct as necessary, the pcm looks a the cam signal from #1 tdc and compares it with the crank signal for max accuracy in injection timing. I do know that the tauruses will run with out the cam sensor, throughs a code and may run in a defualt loop but loss of this sensor does not shut the car down. Hope that may help you re re rethink your project.

[cliffdavis]

Thanks for the tip! $35 from RockAuto. It looks like I can graft the sensor end onto a distributor stub (like the one at the start of the thread).

[twistngo]

Happy to help, best of luck with the mods.

[cliffdavis]

Tonight, my baby, my daily driver, went up on the tall jack stands. All the drum brake parts are off, in a box, forever. The next time I drive it:
4 wheel discs
solid-mounted steering box
total front end rebuild
and (probably) a hydroboost unit.

I expect this will take a couple weeks. I'll post pics and pertinent details as they emerge...

[cliffdavis]

Looks like my rear brakes are gonna be an 07 Wrangler rotor and an 86 Seville caliper. Front is gonna be 73 Chevy C-10 hub/rotor, either Wilwood or K-H 4-piston calipers. It's bracket-makin' time. Mock-up pics coming over the weekend.

[cliffdavis]

Here's how the Wrangler rotor sits with the Seville caliper. I opened up the pilot bore until the rotor slipped on nice and tight. I removed about 1mm material, using the pilot bore's bevel as a guide. Easy-peezy. The alignment is such that a flat-plate caliper bracket may suffice, so that part may be 'simple'.

[cliffdavis]

Finally finished making all the hydraulic and brake lines- here's a 77 Lincoln Versailles hydroboost/master cylinder, installed in my 64, with a Wilwood prop valve.

I installed bulkhead fittings in the power steering fluid reservoir- 6AN for the main return, and a separate 4AN return for the booster.

Baby steps.